Tuesday, December 27, 2011

Seven Things Jesus Christ Hates

“These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: 17  A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18  An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, 19  A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.”      Proverbs 6:16-19 

“But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.”     Revelations 2:6 
“So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate.”   Revelations 2:15 

Information on "Nicolaitians" can be found at one of our websites:
http://iadirectory.webs.com/noreverends.htm


In Jesus,
Bruce

Friday, December 23, 2011

Jehovah's Witnesses vs. Joseph Thayer's Greek Lexicon, Etc. The following chart is written by trinitarians.


How the quote appears in "Should you believe in the Trinity", Watchtower, JW's booklet.
"In the same way, since John 1:1 shows that the Word was with God, he could not be God but was "a god," or "divine." Joseph Henry Thayer, a theologian and scholar who worked on the American Standard Version, stated simply: "The Logos was divine, not the divine Being himself." ("Joseph Henry Thayer's personal copy of Griesbach's Greek New Testament text, 1809, with Thayer's handwritten comments on John 1:1 interleaved." Watchtower organization's own words as to the source)
What they fail to tell you about the quote After a long and tedious effort to make the Watchtower disclose the source of the quote, they replied: "Joseph Henry Thayer's personal copy of Griesbach's Greek New Testament text, 1809, with Thayer's handwritten comments on John 1:1 interleaved." (Watchtower organization's own words)
Here is a portion of Grimm's comments on THEOS in his Lexicon which Thayer translated. "2. Whether Christ is called God must be determined from Jn. i. 1 ; xx. 28 ; I Jn. v. 20; Ro. ix. 5; Tit. ii. 13; Heb. i. 8 sq., etc.; the matter is still in dispute among theologians; cf. Grimm, Institutio theologiae dogmaticae, ed. 2, p. 228 sqq. [and the discussion (on Ro. ix. 5) by Professors Dwight and Abbot in Journ. Soc. Bib. Lit. etc. u. s., esp. pp. 42 sqq. 113 sqq.]. 3. spoken of the only and true GOD: with the article, Mt. iii. 9; Mk. xiii. 19; Lk. ii. 13; Acts ii. 11" (Joseph Henry Thayer: A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament, THEOS)

  1. Actually Grimm should be spanked for making such irresponsible comments. No one disputes whether the Greek word "THEOS" (and the corresponding English translation: GOD) applies to Jesus. The question is the "theological meaning" of theos/god as it applies to Jesus.
  2. Even Jehovah's witnesses believe that THEOS/GOD is applied to Jesus because they openly call Jesus "A GOD" (Jn 1:1), "GOD" (Jn 20:28), "MIGHTY GOD". (Isa 9:6) If you don't believe us, this is exactly how the New World Translation renders the phrases, with various squabbles over whether it should be "A GOD" or "a god". (As if it makes any difference.) So both Trinitarians and Jehovah's Witnesses stand together in opposing Grimm's own comments, because even JW's agree that Jn 1:1 calls Jesus "a god".
  3. Thayer didn't offer his OWN opinion on the subject, and Grimm only said that there was a dispute. Yet even here no one disputes that "theos" is applied to Jesus in John 1:1. Did you hear that? NO ONE, not even Jehovah's Witnesses disputes the Jesus is called GOD or THEOS in John 1:1!
  4. Interesting that Thayer could have added a personal comment here, but did not! However, he did add a reference to another famous Unitarian's article by Abbot!
Proof Thayer was Unitarian
  1. Some challenge whether Thayer was Unitarian, saying, he was instead Congregationalist. We simply quote the "Publishers Introduction" to Thayer's famous lexicon:
  2. "A word of caution is necessary. Thayer was a Unitarian, and the errors of this sect occasionally come through in the explanatory notes. The reader should be alert for both subtle and blatant denials of such doctrines as the Trinity (Thayer regarded Christ as a mere man and the Holy Spirit as an impersonal force emanating from God), the inherent and total depravity of fallen human nature, the eternal punishment of the wicked, and Biblical inerrancy." (Joseph Henry Thayer: A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament, Publishers Introduction, page VII, Baker Book House)
  3. "The Greek word for equal is ison,’ which according to Thayer’s Greek Lexicon (p. 307), an acknowledged authority, means equal in quality as in quantity, to claim for oneself, the nature, rank, authority, which belong to God’ (John 5:18). Dr. Thayer, Jehovah’s Witnesses might take notice, was a Unitarian who denied Christ’s Deity even as they themselves do; yet, being honest, he gave the true meaning of the Biblical terms even they contradicted his views." (Kingdom of the Cults, Walter Martin. p 67)
  4. "The late Dr. Joseph F. Thayer, a Unitarian scholar, author of one of the best lexicons of the Greek New Testament (who, incidentally, denied the visible second coming of Christ), said on page 490 of that work, when speaking of parousia’: ... a return (Phillipians 1:26)... In the New Testament especially of the Advent, i.e., the future visible return from heaven of Jesus, the Messiah, to raise the dead, hold the last judgment, and set up formally and gloriously the Kingdom of God.’ (Kingdom of the Cults, Walter Martin. p 81)
  5. Dr. Thayer, it might be mentioned, was honest enough to say what the New Testament Greek taught, even though he didn’t believe it." (Kingdom of the Cults, Walter Martin. p 81)
Deception Exposed:
  1. The Watchtower fails to tell you that Thayer is not a Trinitarian, but a Unitarian who believed Jesus was a creature.
  2. No wonder nobody could find where Thayer said the quote in the Watchtower booklet! Now stop and think about this for a moment. We will grant that the book was Thayer's and even that the comment was in his own handwriting! (How could anyone really confirm this for sure?) But a marginal note may or may not represent what he personally believed! He may have written it there to express another's view as a reminder.
  3. Thayer's most famous work, "A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament" is Thayer's translation of Grimm's work. Thayer often makes his own personal comments in addition to Grimm's words in this lexicon. Thayer's words are always denoted with square brackets [Thayer's comments] in Grimm's lexicon. (We flagged them in blue above.)
  4. We wonder what value there is in even quoting Thayer's handwritten note (if it is even his handwriting) since the official choice of translation used by Jehovah's Witnesses is different from what Thayer said. It was the Watchtower that chose not to translate Jn 1:1 "and the word was divine". But Jehovah's Witnesses will quote any translation of Jn 1:1 that might indicate Jesus was a creature, even it is a translation they disagree with.
  5. And one final note. Even though Thayer was theologically close to Jehovah's Witnesses in their view of Jesus, his footnote really doesn't help them. Thayer's comment: "The Logos was divine, not the divine Being himself." Is easily agreeable to any Trinitarian. Who is divine, but uncreated God? The Father, Son and Holy Spirit, are all uncreated God and are all equally divine, yet they differ from one another, or as Thayer put it: "The Logos [Jesus] was divine, not the divine Being himself [the Father mentioned in Jn 1:1b].

The above chart is found at http://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Thayer.htm     This website is promoting the trinity. Christians are against the 3 persons of the trinity. We are Oneness. One person, His name is Jesus Christ. He is God. He sits on the only divine throne in Heaven as your judge. Jesus is 100% man and 100% God. Who will you worship?

Wednesday, December 21, 2011

Aaronic Blessing

Hello Students,

 The Aaronic  Blessing
 
"And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 23 Speak unto Aaron and unto his sons, saying, On this wise ye shall bless the children of Israel, saying unto them, 24 The LORD bless thee, and keep thee: 25 The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee: 26 The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.27 And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them." Numbers 6:22-27

The traditional hand position is hands held upright over the head, palms facing the congregation, thumbs touching, and the first two fingers held together; fingers from the other hand are not touching.

In Yeshua,
Rabbi, Bruce Klein, Messianic Jew


















Monday, December 19, 2011

Our Talk with Denver L. Stanford

Hello Friends,

 Sister Klein and I spoke with Brother Denver L. Stanford who is presently a home missionary. Sister Klein remembers him teaching on soul winning at a church she was outreach director of in Pensacola, Florida. The church is Brentwood UPC, Brother Jimmy Mitchell is the pastor. Brother Stanford told us he traveled from church to church teaching on soul winning for eight and a half years.

 Brother Stanford's main point in his talk with us can be summarized in his statement. "If a Christian is not winning souls, there is something wrong!" 

 At the age of seventy-four, he is very much a soul winner.

 He told us stories about interviewing men who had graduated from UPC Bible colleges who had never won a soul. 

In Jesus,
Bruce

PS. Apostolic Theological Seminary and Bible College is very much into training soul winners.

Wednesday, December 14, 2011

Are Baptists Going to Hell? Part 3

Hello,

Jesus spoke:
"Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6  That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit."          John 3:5-6 

Born of water
Born of Spirit
Born of flesh

Most church denominations consider "born of water" is water baptism.
Most church denominations consider "born of Spirit" is Holy Spirit baptism.
Most church denominations consider "born of flesh" is born of your Mom.

Jesus continued to speak:
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."  John 3:16 
Does John 3:16 negate John 3:5-6? Should John 3:16 cause a person to ignore John 3:5-6.

In Baptist Bible colleges and seminaries, I was taught to read Scripture for what it says not to spiritualize or correct Scripture to agree with denominational theology. That in itself is correct. Was it followed in determining Baptist theological doctrines? No. Verses were ignored because they don't agree with Baptist doctrine. A person must combine all of the Scriptures to form theological doctrines. Systematic Theology vs. Biblical Theology. Systematic Theology is written to support the doctrines of a denomination. Biblical Theology is written based only on the written Word.

What do you believe? How did you arrive at your belief system?

The Holy Ghost, after the baptism of the Holy Ghost, had me spending quality time after Baptist seminary education to read the Holy Bible. Jesus was showing me what the Scriptures are saying. I was being retrained, based only on the Holy Bible, not man's training. What does the Holy Bible really say.


In Jesus,
Dr. Bruce Klein, ThD

PS. Will you obey?


Dr. Bruce Klein, ThD was a Baptist pastor having been educated in fundamental Baptist Bible colleges and fundamental Baptist seminaries.

Are Baptists Going to Hell? Part 2

Hello,

Mark wrote:
"He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."     Mark 16:16

"He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; ... ."  is this truth or a lie? Does the second clause negate the first clause in this verse? Or is the problem the first clause doesn't fit your theology?

Peter wrote:
"Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. 21  The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:"                                      1 Peter 3:20-21   
 
"... baptism doth also now save us ... ."  is this truth or a lie?   Baptism does also now save us!

Paul spoke:
"And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord."                                        Acts 22:16

In Jesus,
Dr. Bruce Klein, ThD

PS. Will you obey?

Dr. Bruce Klein, ThD was a Baptist pastor having been educated in fundamental Baptist Bible colleges and fundamental Baptist seminaries.

Monday, December 12, 2011

Are Baptists Going to Hell? Part 1

Hello,

"Now when they heard this , they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men  and brethren, what shall we do?"Acts 2:37

 A very clear question was asked. A very clear answer was given.

"Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." Acts 2:38

Very clear directions to salvation:
1. Repent
2. Be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins
3. Receive the gift of the Holy Ghost

Not to obey these directions is grounds for the legal sentence of damnation in Hell!

In Jesus,
Bruce

PS. Just in case you are wondering are these verses for me, personally?
"For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. 40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation." Acts 2:39-40

PSS. Those who heard Peter responded by:
"Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls." Acts 2:41
Because, they obeyed they were added to the church.

PSSS. Will you obey?

Dr. Bruce Klein, ThD was a Baptist pastor having been educated in fundamental Baptist Bible colleges and fundamental Baptist seminaries.

Dedication

Little dedication, little power.
Much dedication, much power!

Dana Klein

Wednesday, December 7, 2011

Roman Catholic Traditions

Hello Friends,

 The Roman Catholic Church has had much influence on Christianity, as we know it. Not all of those influences are bad. There have been very good examples of people leaving wealth to serve Jesus, and living a very good life. Not everyone in every form of religion is a bad apple or example. Religion in a sense does serve the world's population. We see many good religious groups feeding hungry children and helping pay for schools and shelter for the needy. We have to be very careful in attacking false teachings not to attack the sincerity of those caught up in them, but realize that regardless there are those who are sincerely wrong. We also need to keep in mind that the same principle we are applying in study needs to apply in all areas. If we are to take the stance that steeples are wrong then what of the pulpit? If we are to stand against the use of the word "Christian", then we are to also take into account that more than likely Jesus or the Apostles did not wear a "Cleric Collar". If we are to see clearly,  taking the beam out of our own eyes is a prerequisite before reaching out to helping others remove the "mote" that is interfering with their vision. Yet, we have to stand up for Biblical Truth regardless of associations or institutions. As Jesus does surgery with the Word in our own hearts let us share the truth in love remembering who it is that has called us out. It is not by any works that we have done but by the precious blood of Christ Jesus that we have the privilege of serving others. The old hymn,"To Be Like Jesus", should be our goal. Let us measure all things by the Cross and Sacrifice He made for the souls of men and women.

Examples:

Pulpit
Laity
Collar around the cleric's neck
Christian (God's people in Scripture didn't call themselves Christians they were called Christians by others.)


Apostolic Doctrine (God's Word uses the words "Apostle" and "Doctrine")
New Testament (New Covenant)
Old Testament (Old Covenant)
Church Steeples
Pews etc.


May we share the sincere truth of the Word
In Jesus,
Dr. Bruce & Dana Klein